By Mrs. Eileen Hunter — about the author. Posted August 11, 2026.
Provenance: recorded telephone interview of Glen Dale Nelson (rendered “Glenn Nelson” by the transcription service) by attorneys Kathryn Jakuback [Burke] and Jennifer Cameron of Longman Jakuback, APLC. Certified transcript completed February 27, 2026 (Rev.com), filed as Exhibit 2 to the pending writ application. Transcribed in full below from the filed exhibit, with scanning artifacts corrected; one personal health remark about a third party is omitted per site policy, marked where it occurs. Context: the Nelson file.
Glenn Nelson (00:00): Hello.
Kathryn Jakuback (00:01): Hi. Mr. Nelson?
Glenn Nelson (00:03): How are you doing?
Kathryn Jakuback (00:04): I’m doing all right. My name’s Kathryn Jakuback. I’m an attorney.
Glenn Nelson (00:09): Okay.
Kathryn Jakuback (00:10): I’m sorry to call you out of the blue. I represent Tony Hunter.
Glenn Nelson (00:14): Okay.
Kathryn Jakuback (00:17): And so we’re in the process of potentially putting together a post-conviction application for him. And your name came up in the course of our investigation. And I wanted to see if you had any objection to me asking you a couple of questions.
Glenn Nelson (00:39): I don’t really want to deal with it, that stuff right now.
Kathryn Jakuback (00:43): Okay. That’s fine. I totally understand. Just thought perhaps we’d be able to catch you. Are you saying you are opposed to answering questions just today or in general?
Glenn Nelson (01:00): What do you need from me?
Kathryn Jakuback (01:03): Yeah. So look, I’m not trying to trip you up or anything, and certainly you absolutely can say no. I had some questions about your interview with Molly Fowler.
Glenn Nelson (01:18): Okay.
Kathryn Jakuback (01:18): And I didn’t know if you could maybe shed some light on that if you have time.
Glenn Nelson (01:27): That situation’s kind of… I don’t think I should even deal with that right now while I’m still incarcerated.
Kathryn Jakuback (01:36): Okay. Totally get it. Don’t want to pressure you.
Glenn Nelson (01:40): It’s not so much that. It’s just a lot of things come with that. And I mean, it open ups a lot of other doors, it might shut some other doors for me. I’m trying to come home here in a few months. And I completed the program. I’m trying to get out of here, which is looking pretty good for me. But right now, I don’t think I should deal with that stuff. It’s a situation with that case and Tony Hunter, because actually I don’t believe he did it, but there’s so much I can say right now without opening up some other stuff. I didn’t like the interview with Ms. Molly because Ms. Molly, it’s like she wanted me to say something else that wasn’t so, but I do know that Tony never said that in front of those guys. I know that much for sure. But of the way it came about, now I don’t know how it all come about. But he did not say that. I can tell you that.
Kathryn Jakuback (02:34): When you say he didn’t say that, you mean he didn’t make any confessions?
Glenn Nelson (02:37): No, he did not.
Kathryn Jakuback (02:38): Okay.
Glenn Nelson (02:39): I can say that. I mean, he did not. He did not. So for them to say that he did that in my presence, he did not—
Kathryn Jakuback (02:49): I know that Eileen had the… And Eileen is Tony’s wife. I believe that you may be familiar with her just by virtue of your previous association with the case. She was under the impression that you had indicated that there was potential new evidence that wasn’t relayed. And I just wanted to see if there was anything that you could direct us to look into.
Glenn Nelson (03:15): Well, I never spoke with anybody but Molly.
Kathryn Jakuback (03:15): Yeah, no, Molly was hired by Eileen.
Glenn Nelson (03:19): What I’m saying is this, those guys stated that Hunter made a confession in the presence of me and some other people. That didn’t happen. This is what I’m saying. That never happened. I just didn’t want any part of it because it didn’t happen. That I can tell you. So how they went about coming up with that and saying that he did this and he did that, I don’t know. But it’s like she wanted me to… The way I got it from Molly is that she wanted me to say, “Hey, I was a part of what they had going on to get action.” No, I was not a part of any of that. He didn’t say it. I wasn’t part of it no kind of way. So it was all new to me. When I asked my attorneys to bring me the statements that was made, I was like, “Wow, this never happened.” But they said it did, but it didn’t. I just didn’t want to deal with it at the time because I was fighting charges myself and by pissing off the district attorney at that time, that wasn’t a good idea for me either.
Kathryn Jakuback (04:18): Sure. I get that.
Glenn Nelson (04:12): So I pled the Fifth. I said, “Look, call me. I’m going to invoke my Fifth Amendment right, and that’s what it is.” But I mean, what’s right is right. He didn’t say it. He didn’t confess that. He did not.
Kathryn Jakuback (04:36): Did the police or the district attorney ever interview you?
Glenn Nelson (04:43): No, not the district attorney. Some officers did come and tell me something. Well, they actually told me something… They wasn’t really asking me much of anything. There was quite a few of them that came in and questioned… Well, I ain’t going to say questioned me because they really wasn’t questioning me. They was just kind of telling me to relay a message and let Tony know that they was going to get him and so forth. But they didn’t really just get deep down into the questioning, you know what I’m saying, about that. It was more or less… They did ask me about a female, did I know this female or anything like that, some girl from somewhere named Thundercat or something. I don’t know. I didn’t know her then. And they kind of mentioned that they told me to give him a message that they was going to get him and Merry Christmas or some stuff of that nature, but it wasn’t in depth or in depth interview or anything that was recorded or anything of that nature like that.
Kathryn Jakuback (05:40): Do you know who the officers were?
Glenn Nelson (05:42): There was a bunch of them. I promise you, I can’t… I want to say Lowe might have been one of them. I don’t know nothing. I really can’t remember, ma’am. That was in probably 2002 or ’03 when that got… That’s the only time I ever heard anything as far as being questioned or something like that, I was talked to. There was that one time. But other than that, I would like to help him out because it’s not the fact just helping him out, but just being real about it. He didn’t confess that. He just didn’t do that. He didn’t. That was not the truth. That’s a lie.
Kathryn Jakuback (06:28): Well, no, and I appreciate you humoring me with just a couple of questions. I know you’re not really interested in getting involved. One of the things that came up in our investigation was that the word on the street was that a guy by the name of a street name Fats might be involved.
Glenn Nelson (06:50): Fat?
Kathryn Jakuback (06:50): Fats, F-A-T-S.
Glenn Nelson (06:52): I’ve heard all kind of things. I’ve heard that too, but I don’t know. I don’t know. I really don’t. I don’t know who may have been involved in anything like that. I just know that the statements that was made saying that Hunter confessed in front of me, that never happened. None of that happened. That’s all I can tell you. None of that happened.
Kathryn Jakuback (07:22): Okay.
Glenn Nelson (07:22): And that seemed to be what convicted him was of Comanche and Clarence Kennedy. The other guy’s statement was so off the wagon, it didn’t have such an impact. But Clarence Kennedy and Comanche did. But they fabricated that. That didn’t happen.
Kathryn Jakuback (07:38): I mean, obviously you were at the facility with Tony at the same time that he was incarcerated. My impression is that it wouldn’t have even been possible based on where the statements are alleged to have been heard because of the thickness of the window.
Glenn Nelson (07:56): It’s possible. It is possible, but it didn’t happen.
Kathryn Jakuback (08:00): Okay.
Glenn Nelson (08:02): There was a conversation, but it wasn’t that. Now there was a conversation between Hunter and I, but it wasn’t that.
Kathryn Jakuback (08:11): Okay. Do you mind me asking what it was about?
Glenn Nelson (08:14): I mean, he didn’t confess to anything. That’s what I’m saying. I told them that. The investigators was there to see me. They asked me a few questions about him and asked me about this girl. And I asked him, I did ask him, “Man, who is the girl?” And he was like, he wasn’t familiar with the girl. And I said, “Well, they told me to tell you they got you, bro.” And that was basically the conversation. But all that other stuff, that was something they put together, man. Somebody came up with that. I didn’t have no part of that. Like I said, the first time I learned about it was like in 2000 and right before… Man, the first time I learned about it was that when Tony Hunter was getting ready for trial, the week he started at trial, my lawyers came and showed to me because they was like, the DA wanted me to testify. I was like, “For what?” He said, “About the triple homicide.” I said, “I don’t know nothing about that.” He said, “Well, let me read something to you.” So that’s when he read me Comanche’s and Kennedy’s statement. I was like, “Man, that ain’t going to… It ain’t happening. I don’t want nothing to do with that. I ain’t messing with that.” And that’s why I took the Fifth.
Kathryn Jakuback (09:13): Did your attorney relay to the district attorney, if you know, that that’s not what the content of his statement was?
Glenn Nelson (09:20): Well, I know he just told him that I didn’t want no part of it, and if they called me to testify, that I would invoke my Fifth Amendment right. They did. That’s how I put it. I was like, “Man, I ain’t got nothing— I don’t know nothing about that crap. It ain’t happening. And I’m pleading the Fifth on that, straight up.”
Kathryn Jakuback (09:35): [Who] was your attorney at the time?
Glenn Nelson (09:37): Well, his name was, I had Lee Perkins and Louis Scott. [Personal health remark about a third party omitted per site policy.]
Kathryn Jakuback (09:44): It was Lee Perkins?
Glenn Nelson (09:47): Yeah.
Kathryn Jakuback (09:47): Okay.
Glenn Nelson (09:50): And Louis Scott. But I told him I was going to invoke my Fifth Amendment right. Because he came to me with a deal because I had a homicide charge pending then, another charge Tony Hunter and I had that was dismissed against Tony, but they kept it over my head, I guess for some leverage or something, but they ended up dismissing it as well. And like I told him, “Man, I ain’t know nothing about that. I ain’t messing with that. If you call me, I’m pleading the Fifth.”
Kathryn Jakuback (10:12): Was there an offer on the table if you were to testify?
Glenn Nelson (10:17): Well, somewhat, yeah. But it wasn’t just… I was told that if I did, that everything was going to kind of go away. But I didn’t deal with it. I just didn’t want no part of that stuff. That was heavy. That was some heavy stuff. I didn’t even want my name involved in it, period, because that’s some heavy and it was dangerous.
Kathryn Jakuback (10:37): Right.
Glenn Nelson (10:40): You don’t want the reputation of even being involved with somebody or something that’s dealing with someone killing some children. You don’t want that. And it was hot. It was hot at the time. It was heated and people were upset about it. So I just didn’t want no part of that stuff.
Kathryn Jakuback (10:56): Well, look, Mr. Nelson, I appreciate your time. I know you mentioned you didn’t want to be dealing with all this, so I’m not going to keep you for too much longer. I have my associate attorney here. Jennifer, can you think of any other questions he can help us with?
Jennifer Cameron (11:12): I don’t think so.
Kathryn Jakuback (11:15): I really appreciate your time, Mr. Nelson. I may reach out to Mr. Perkins just to see if he remembers that interaction, if you’re okay with that.
Glenn Nelson (11:23): I mean, like I say, I mean, all I can tell you is that I know he didn’t make that confession. That’s what I know.
Kathryn Jakuback (11:28): Okay.
Glenn Nelson (11:31): That’s what I know. He did not.
Kathryn Jakuback (11:35): Well, look, I’m super appreciative of your time. Thank you so much for kind of pointing us in the right direction. And I hope you have a good day.
Glenn Nelson (11:41): Okay. You do the same.
Kathryn Jakuback (11:42): Thank you.
The other half: Nelson’s reliability is contested in every direction (see the Nelson file), and no court has held a hearing on this interview — the district court treated the Nelson materials as cumulative, a ruling now challenged in the pending writ. We publish the certified transcript so readers can weigh his words themselves. Back to all case documents.